{"id":275045,"date":"2026-05-08T12:07:52","date_gmt":"2026-05-08T10:07:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/?p=275045"},"modified":"2026-05-08T12:09:37","modified_gmt":"2026-05-08T10:09:37","slug":"the-collective-unconscious-and-altered-states-why-people-see-the-same-entities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/sv\/blog\/the-collective-unconscious-and-altered-states-why-people-see-the-same-entities\/","title":{"rendered":"The Collective Unconscious and Psychedelic Trips: Why People See the Same \u201cEntities\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-size:20px\"><strong>Across cultures, time periods, and completely different belief systems, people entering altered states of consciousness often report something strange: they meet the same kinds of \u201cbeings.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:19px\">Tricksters. Guides. Watchful presences. Shadowy figures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It doesn\u2019t seem to matter whether the state is reached through psychedelics, meditation, ritual, or spontaneously. The characters show up anyway, and they feel real. Sometimes more real than everyday life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So what\u2019s going on here?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-a-shared-inner-world\">A Shared Inner World?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Psykolog <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gre.ac.uk\/people\/rep\/faculty-of-education-and-health\/dr-david-luke\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">David Luke<\/a>, PhD, has spent years studying altered states, anomalous experiences, and psychedelic consciousness. During a visit to an Indigenous Wix\u00e1rika community in northern Mexico, he had an experience that pushed this question further.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Surrounded by a culture whose rituals centre around a deer deity, Luke closed his eyes \u2014 and without taking any substances, he began to see vivid imagery tied to their cosmology: deer, peyote, fractal coyotes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then it shifted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cI saw a deer,\u201d <\/em>he recalls. But not a typical one. This one wore sunglasses and a cowboy hat. <em>\u201cHe was looking at me saying, \u2018Yo, dude, what are you up to?\u2019\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u00e5 <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Huichol\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wix\u00e1rika<\/a> tradition, the deer is a trickster figure: playful, disruptive, often delivering insight through absurdity. In that context, the bizarre image made sense. What unsettled Luke wasn\u2019t the content. It was how easily it appeared, as if it hadn\u2019t been consciously constructed, but accessed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/deer-gif.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-275052\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-return-of-an-old-idea\">The Return of an Old Idea<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>This kind of experience isn\u2019t new. For centuries, people have described encountering similar figures during dreams, rituals, and altered states <em>(such as when tripping on magic mushrooms)<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ancient Greek philosophers spoke of a hidden mental order beneath reality. Plato described a realm of ideal forms existing independently of perception.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the 20th century, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/sv\/blogg\/anvander-jungs-ideer-for-att-utforska-psykedelika\/\" type=\"post\" id=\"22731\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Carl Jung<\/a> gave this idea a name: the collective unconscious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jung proposed that humans share a deep layer of mind filled with archetypes \u2014 universal symbols and characters that shape myths, dreams, and inner experiences across cultures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For a long time, that idea sat outside mainstream science. But it\u2019s starting to creep back in, this time through neuroscience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-science-is-starting-to-say\">What Science Is Starting to Say<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>A 2025 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/396679528_Eigenmodes_of_the_deep_unconscious_the_neuropsychology_of_Jungian_archetypes_and_psychedelic_experience\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">neuroscientific review<\/a> reframed Jung\u2019s theory in modern terms, suggesting that shared neural patterns may emerge across individuals through evolution, social learning, and what\u2019s sometimes called neural attunement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instead of each brain inventing these figures from scratch, the idea is that we inherit certain symbolic templates. Under the right conditions, the brain can <em>\u201cswitch them on.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That could explain why people who have never met, live thousands of kilometres apart, and come from entirely different cultures still report encountering similar entities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A 2024 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.frontiersin.org\/journals\/psychology\/articles\/10.3389\/fpsyg.2024.1379391\/full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">studera<\/a> of shamanic rituals adds another layer. It found that archetypal symbols <em>(like masks and totems) <\/em>significantly shaped participants\u2019 altered states. In other words, shared cultural imagery can influence what people experience, even beyond their personal memory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"638\" height=\"381\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/shadowy-figures.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-275078\" style=\"width:800px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/shadowy-figures.jpg 638w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/shadowy-figures-300x179.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/shadowy-figures-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/shadowy-figures-600x358.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 638px) 100vw, 638px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-cyan-bluish-gray-color\">Photo by David Trinks on Unsplash<\/mark><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-why-the-same-figures-keep-appearing\">Why the Same Figures Keep Appearing<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>The obvious question is why these specific figures \u2014 tricksters, animals, watchers \u2014 keep showing up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Luke points to several possible explanations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Part of it may be neurological. Humans are wired to detect faces and agency, even in random patterns. Cultural exposure also plays a role. <em>\u201cFor instance, exposure to memes, even unconsciously, could do it,\u201d<\/em> he says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s also projection, our inner psychology externalised into symbolic form.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mainstream science tends to favour a more grounded explanation: <strong>evolution.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The human brain is built to find patterns, even where none exist. This tendency, known as apophenia, helps us survive. Seeing a threat where there isn\u2019t one is safer than missing a real danger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Related processes like pareidolia<em> (seeing faces in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/sv\/blogg\/molnskadande-pa-magiska-svampar\/\" type=\"post\" id=\"47962\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">moln<\/a>)<\/em> and &#8216;agent detection&#8217; <em>(assigning intention to ambiguous stimuli)<\/em> reinforce this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From that perspective, these entities aren\u2019t external\u2014they\u2019re byproducts of shared brain architecture shaped by common evolutionary pressures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"604\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-1024x604.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-275079\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-1024x604.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-300x177.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-768x453.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-1536x906.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds-600x354.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Pareidolia_clouds.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-cyan-bluish-gray-color\">Pareidolia clouds (via Wikimedia Commons)<\/mark><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-evolutionary-case-for-entities\">The Evolutionary Case for \u201cEntities\u201d<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Psykolog <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chris_French\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Christopher C. French<\/a> argues that these experiences may be rooted in survival mechanisms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cIt may be that, for various evolutionary reasons, such potentially threatening stimuli have become hardwired into our brains,\u201d<\/em> he says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Humans evolved in complex social environments, where deception was a real risk. Being slightly paranoid, quick to detect trickery or hidden intent, could be useful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That might explain why trickster figures appear so often.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cWe have evolved to be aware of attempts by others to trick us, and a certain degree of mild paranoia may well be useful in our everyday interactions to protect us from falling victim to scams,\u201d<\/em> French says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even so-called <em>\u201cshadow people\u201d<\/em> or threatening presences could be extensions of this system \u2014 our brains leaning toward caution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-where-the-theory-falls-short\">Where the Theory Falls Short<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>For Luke, these explanations cover a lot. But not everything&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One sticking point is aphantasia, a condition where people are unable to form mental images. Even without visual imagination, some individuals still report vivid entity encounters in altered states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If these figures are purely constructed from internal imagery, how does that happen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Luke suggests that current models: pattern recognition, cultural priming, psychological projection, may explain much, but not <em>all,<\/em> of the phenomenon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"637\" height=\"351\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/psychedelic-trip.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-275080\" style=\"width:800px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/psychedelic-trip.jpg 637w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/psychedelic-trip-300x165.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/psychedelic-trip-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/psychedelic-trip-600x331.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 637px) 100vw, 637px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-cyan-bluish-gray-color\">Photo by Khinaii van Laren on Unsplash<\/mark><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-a-more-radical-possibility\">A More Radical Possibility<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>Luke is open to the idea that consciousness might not be entirely contained within the brain. Instead, he suggests that it could interact with something like a shared informational field \u2014 a kind of collective memory that individuals can access.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In that model, these archetypal figures aren\u2019t invented. They\u2019re encountered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some researchers are exploring similar ideas from different angles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cognitive scientist <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Donald_D._Hoffman\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Donald Hoffman<\/a> has proposed that reality itself may function like a user interface \u2014 a simplified layer hiding a deeper informational structure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Neuroscientist Anil Seth describes perception as a <em>\u201ccontrolled hallucination,\u201d<\/em> where the brain constructs reality based on internal models rather than directly perceiving the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both perspectives loosen the idea that what we experience is purely external or purely self-generated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-honest-answer-we-don-t-fully-know\">The Honest Answer: We Don\u2019t Fully Know<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Even among scientists, there\u2019s no clear consensus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cThe honest answer is that no one really knows why these common themes occur,\u201d <\/em>French says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What makes the phenomenon difficult to dismiss is not just that people see similar figures. It\u2019s that they interact with them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And those interactions often feel intensely real.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Luke describes them as <em>\u201cmore real than \u2018this\u2019 sober reality, and are often considered to be more advanced, more knowing, than us corporal humans.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-when-experience-changes-belief\">When Experience Changes Belief<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Whatever their origin, these encounters tend to have a lasting impact. They can feel meaningful, humbling, and sometimes destabilising in a incredible way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cSometimes atheists convert to theists,\u201d <\/em>Luke says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That shift isn\u2019t necessarily about adopting a specific belief system. It\u2019s more about the sense that reality might be deeper, stranger, or more interconnected than it first appears.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"384\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/stars-mystery.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-275082\" style=\"width:800px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/stars-mystery.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/stars-mystery-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/stars-mystery-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/stars-mystery-600x360.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-cyan-bluish-gray-color\">Foto av Greg Rakozy p\u00e5 Unsplash<\/mark><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-something-shared-whatever-it-is\">Something Shared \u2014 Whatever It Is<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>Whether these experiences come from shared brain structures, cultural archetypes, or something less easily explained, one thing is consistent: they\u2019re not random.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They follow patterns. They repeat across people and places. And they leave an impression.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The idea of a collective unconscious \u2014 once dismissed as abstract \u2014 now sits in an interesting space. Not fully accepted, not entirely ruled out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Somewhere between neuroscience and mystery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And for now, that\u2019s where it stays.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-275083\" style=\"width:396px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25.png 1000w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25-12x12.png 12w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/www.wholecelium.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Magnifying-glass-1-25-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Do humans share a collective unconscious? 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